Except no one will ever see a penny of that money. The NSO is just a shell company and the scumbags behind it have already forked into several other organizations (Quadream being the most notable). Hell, I actually think this judgement probably hurts WhatsApp more than the NSO group. If you're a criminal, being accused of a crime doesn't hurt your reputation. But if you're a messaging platform who's entire business model relies on their reputed security. This judgement essentially disproves the security claims that whatsapp was using to market their product.

Congrats Meta. You just made the NSO group look like a more effective tool at your own expense. Ya'll spent hundreds of thousands litigating a case that proves that the NSO group is simply a more effective organization than yourselves.

Nice! Now I can have my data stolen even when I don't have cell service! Thanks Apple!

Just a friendly that Apple seems to be a massive, ongoing criminal enterprise. They have be fined over $1.4 BILLION for 27 violations for everything from price-fixing to wage theft. They are a crooked player and there's no reason they're still allowed in the casino.[source:https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fviolationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org%2Fparent%2Fapple-inc]

"Would bots be complaining?"

Obviously not. Do you think bots are born? Like two bots get together, have intercourse and give birth to a bot? Bots are tools being wielded by people. They allow for automation but they don't rule out manual interaction. And the only reason people run large swarms of bots is because they've found a way to monetize them. Wouldn't you complain if someone just crushed your business model?

Yes. The botters would complain.

Nope. Not even close.

None of us believe that Pinterest has a user-base. This is just blatant fraud. I'm guessing someone in their fraud detection and compliance division instituted a bot-detection schemata that accidentally targeted all the accounts their fraud creation division was using to make the platform seem inhabited.

The fact pattern doesn't fit the analysis. This is a bot swarm getting caught, not a bunch of users being inconvenienced.

Pinterest has been a ghost town for years.

Nope, they're just liars. They are lying. They are doing it for money. I think most people would describe that as fraud.

The statement they're making here is a promise that in the future they hope that their products will be shipping from India but there's no conceivable path to making it true. Best case scenario they're just shipping them from China, through India, with an LLC based in India handling the shipping out of China.

But much more likely it's just 100% a lie. Just like their AI products and cyber-security. We know the NSO and many other firms have been selling no-click iphone hacks for at least a decade. And Apple still tells their users to use their phones for banking. Apple knows none of their AI products actually work. And Apple still promotes those features in their marketing.

Apple lies to customers. Full stop.

They have been found guilty of 27 Violations for a total of $1.4 BILLION in fines. They're bad actors. Why is that so hard to figure out? Their rap sheet is disgusting. They're recidivists and should be kicked out of the casino.

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They can say that...it won't be true but they can say it.

Say it with me now! You know all the words!

NO LEGAL USE-CASE AT SCALE!

Nope. That thing you just said is blatant disinformation. That simply isn't how logic, probabilities and large numbers work. We know for a fact that the universe contains several million times as many environmental conditions as exist on the earth itself.

Why did you feel comfortable lying about the nature of universe?

They did not detect "biosignatures". They detected the presence of two chemicals that only exist as the by product of biological functions on earth. Detecting those compounds is science. Reporting the detection of those elements was journalism. But saying that those chemicals are proof of life is pure pseudoscience.

Elements + heat + pressure + time = compounds.

But it's blatantly obvious that there are obviously other ways for the universe to achieve this combination of factors other than what we see on Earth. Applying assumptions based on Earths complex biome to the rest of the universe is intellectual malpractice.

This plotline is disinformative. It might be true so its not disinformation, but the media handled this story in a way that's clearly an attempt to get people to believe something that simply isn't supported by the fact pattern. These two chemicals aren't proof of biological life.

No one who needs this product, trusts it. And no one who trusts it, needs it. They literally have to give this crap away or no one will use it.

Of course. SaaS represents a massive security flaw for any business in 2 major ways. The first way is that most SaaS solutions seem to require some form of persistent internet connection which increases cyber security risks. But the other way that no one really wants to address is that it creates a massive social engineering flaw.

When a business is built around a SaaS solution, they're basically building a protection racket against themselves. That SaaS vendor can raise their prices, go out of business or lose the necessary functionality at any time. Once A firm that relies on SaaS is a firm with a shaky foundation. SaaS functions as a wedge in your supply chain.

SaaS is a real bad idea. I think folks are starting to go back to hiring skilled nerds to make in-house solutions. The entire industry spent years taking the easy way out on cyber-security and it lead to an global ransomware pandemic.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking but it does seem like the market's actually learned it's lesson.

Why do we think anyone is listening to it all? This article shows that the platform clearly allows folks to generate and monetize large swarms of fake accounts. They do not reflect human demand.

As far as I can tell the only profitable use of AI products is too create, manage and monetize swarms of fake accounts. And that's fraud.

This platform seems to be fake. A scammer like Peter Thiel can inflate a platform with 10,000 users to look like a 100,000 without making it look weird but now it seems like folks are running the same scam to inflate a couple hundreds users to look like a couple millions and it leads to these platforms and fandoms that have have a massive digital following but presence in the real world.

Cool comparison but startups actually have the potential to grow. Amazon geometrically, legally and economically cannot grow. Not only is it impossible to Amazon for grow their marketshare, they are under threat from almost every regulatory agency in the country and likely to lose some of the market share they already consumed.

The CEO of Amazon can stand up there and urge Ninja Turtle mentality but it doesn't mean they're gonna grow a shell. This statement is completely delusional and entirely unhinged and we're gonna see more and more of this from C-Suites all over the world in the next few years.

Implausible deniability is the name of the game.

Cool paint job but did ya check under the hood? They're filling the platform with algorithmically generated spam-blogs. This article is an attempt to characterize obvious metric inflation as some kind of organic campaign.

Web 2.0 is a massive fraud. Look a bunch of these new blogs and you'll see it immediately. This "article" is obviously not describing human behavior.

Metric inflation is a crime. It is fraud and platforms shouldn't be doing it.

It's not WhatsApp isn't secure, it's that it literally CAN'T be secure. Security isn't a goal or a state of being, it's a process and when it comes to software code auditing is a required part of that process.

It doesn't actually matter if WhatsApp is "technically" secure or not. Their opaque code-base means none of us can ever verify their claims which means using their their platform requires a lack of due-diligence which is a failure of the process.

As if the lack of transparency isn't enough, we actually do know who control that code-base. The company controlling it seems to be a criminal conspiracy. Facebook has payed over $7 BILLION in penalties for 19 violations. [source: https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fviolationtracker.goodj... ]. Can you trust an organization with a 20 year track record of defrauding the American people?

WhatsApp is not secure.