https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Frockylinux.org%2Fnews%2Fro...

A lot more than a preview AND they are pushing patches into Fedora for CentOS Stream / Red Hat / other EL distros.

Not bad for a bunch of freeloaders. ;-)

If you hang around the EL community at all you'd know the two projects work together frequently. There was even collaboration in the EL IRC channel on this. No need to try to stir stuff up between the two. Alma is ABI compatible so they can patch early; Rocky waits on Red Hat to remain 1:1. Red Hat and Rocky both patched officially today. Some people want fast; some require 1:1 - use the distro that fits your needs better, but don't try to stir up something that isn't there.

Biden-HarrisHQ has repeatedly posted blatantly edited and manipulated videos. Here's the proof of the latest one:
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F...

If you are slinging mud, don't cry when you get dirty. Both the R's and the D's are just as bad about manipulation.

Important to note that Rocky devs also have contributed upstream to CentOS Stream, Fedora, and EPEL as well. And its a good thing that both projects are contributing in many ways. I think it is also a good thing that Rocky is staying 1:1 while Alma is making lots of changes yet staying ABI compatible. It give the community multiple options to find what works best.

Popular misconception? How? Can you provide proof of that?

Those old mailing lists are still around. Here's Sep 2003 where Greg mentions his initial plans for cAos (which are well established as being the roots for CentOS):
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fr...

It didn't take long to also find this where Greg and Rocky are doing builds for cAos Nov 2003:
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fr...

And here's Rocky releasing CentOS 3 tasste build Dec 2003:
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fr...

So please - your turn, defend your own misconception that you perpetuate. Provide proof that Greg wasn't a founding member of CentOS.

Slightly disingenuous of your links/statement.

Rocky tries to be as transparent as possible. They have active conversations in the public. When they got this news, they were as surprised as many others. They had a PUBLIC meeting where ANYONE was invited on jitsi with notes on etherpad of "Whoa! What options do we have?" It seems sus to link to that and suggest they aren't confident when you are talking about their initial PUBLIC reaction vs where things are at days later.

Why not link to this?
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Frockylinux.org%2Fnews%2F20...

Or any of the places where they continue to admit that their values and mission (as stated on their website) hasn't changed? They've said very publicly that they are going to continue to do their best to support the EL community to the best of their ability as long as they can. Alma has expressed similar statements too. It's just going to be a lot more work for anyone wanting to do a EL rebuild from RH and not from Rocky's/Alma's public repos.

Honestly, that's one of the best things out of this statement by RH. It's dumped a TON of community goodwill and support on their part - but having several of the major EL rebuilds coming together to sort this out and forge a path for the whole EL community? That's awesome for everyone.

Huzzah for Rocky! But its good for everyone that there are others. The best place I've seen for metrics is EPEL and these graphs pull from that:
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Frocky-stats.tiuxo.com%2F

I wouldn't be so sure that it couldn't happen to Alma. They are a 501(c)(6) - non-profit **for corporate benefit**. Also, look at who and what it takes to be come a member with vote control on their board. It reads super sketch to me.
Also, https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fmattdm%2Fsta...

They've got several articles showing what madness this bill is going to be. Here's one example:
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.techdirt.com%2F2022%2F...

> There is a YouTube video somewhere of a guy screaming at an array of drives, and every time he does the latency spikes.

You mean like the Youtube link in TFA?

"South Dakota has people dying by the acre load,"

I think the vaccination is screwing with your head. or you are watching too much corporate media. South Dakota numbers aren't anywhere near close to a number that fits that description.

https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoh.sd.gov%2FCOVID%2FDashb...

And those numbers are still WITHOUT a lockdown or forced mask mandate in S.D.

Perhaps you are thinking of the states like Michigan, California, or New York. You know, the ones with high masking, lock downs, a media fearmongering...

"At some point I want to get on a plane or go into a store without a mask,"

Then perhaps move to a state without the fear panic over 99.9+% survival rate?
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronaviru...

(Had COVID. And I've had worse seasonal allergies - any other year and I would have thought it was just seasonal allergies!)

Agreed. One of my wife's best friends deals with people (primarily teens to early 20's) with mental health issues. She's said many times that this group of people has had a really hard time with isolation and social distancing leading to an increase in suicides and attempted suicides. As this is her job I'm more prone to believe her and her resources over CBS. But I also tend to trust JAMA and follow them closely. Maybe there is an increase in certain regions but overall it's down? Dunno...

Something seems off and I can't help but feel that once again this is gaslighting information. Especially when plenty of other countries (one example is Japan) reported an increase in suicide across the board. Other studies show an increase in suicide in 2020 as well: https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wave3.com%2F2020%2F12%2F... Lastly, one of the reasons listed for why Texas started the reopening in May was because of the substantial increase of deaths from being stuck at home (unintentional deaths: alcoholism, drug use, ect as well as intentional suicides from job loss) compared to COVID.

Someone's data doesn't jive with the rest of the data. Just not sure who's. Or why...

Yup! That looks like it. Thanks!
I stopped using around the time I started mass blocking traffic to Google. I've been using DDG for years anyway.

Tried the "cloud" (aka: someone elses computer). The first just up and disappeared one day when they got bought out. The second charged me AGAIN to get data back out. The third would only give me kbs download when I had to restore unless I paid AGAIN for retrieving data. Add on top of that the complexity to ensure everything was encrypted before being pushed up to someone elses computer (who you never know what entity has access to that data at any time).

After many disastrous attempts with "cloud", I took things back into my own hands and it's been solid and reliable for ~4 years for all the systems on my network. rsnapshot (hourly/daily/weekly/monthly) to a local system configured with ZFS. Then a rotating LUKS encrypted external hard drive (biggest I could get) that gets a weekly snapshot sync that I take over to a off-site locker in a secure facility before retrieving last weeks external drive. And all of that is CONSIDERABLY cheaper then what I was paying to use someone elses computer in the "cloud". Yes, the upfront cost was higher but it easily paid itself off long ago.

There was a Firefox plugin years ago that used to take in RSS feeds and build random junk queries that would flood all the major search engines with semi-realistic junk when the browser was open. I used to have two or three machines with Firefox running flooding them all day every day. Can't remember the name but the slogan was related to the "needle in a haystack" line of thinking. I don't think it would be too hard to do something similar and just flood all kinds of bad data to all of the trackers. Most of the trackers are listed in various lists that projects like pi-hole use. Just inverse that. Instead of blocking, send constant bad data. :-)