Agreed (+1 parent)
.. and also agree with later post about semantics/ navajo translation.
We BELIEVED there was privacy, because the Government told us about the protection, and the media supported them. The olde-tyme radio cops got away with what society thought was fair.. today, Law and Order:(n) or CSI:(m) would at least make a 'big deal' about a sketchy search without PC, or when handling a suspect who hasn't been properly Mirandized.
Until relatively recent credit card legislation, citizens had no expectation of privacy against data collection ( selective surveillance) by non-government agencies.
This surveillance has been happening since before most of us were even born. It is not new.. but the media has ignited the flames of FUD, and the methods for collecting, analyzing , and distributing information have grown exponentially as a result of computers and the changes they bring to society.
In 1897 or so, S&H Green stamps started a " marketing loyalty program". Your grocer ( gas station, Sears & Roebuck) could influence your purchases by adjusting the 'bonus levels' of green stamps you received in return for a purchase. When they chose to, they could also watch meta-trends, or even specific consumer behavior changes, because all the stamps were serial-numbered. S&H, when they received the redeemed booklets, could measure the effectiveness.. which retailers were distributing more, which customers were collecting & returning more, how many just got lost or never filled a book?
The company changed over time.. and never really returned to the giant stature they had after the 1970's inflation/stagflation.. but they still exist, and offer web-based purchase premiums.
Around 1920, Al Neilsen got tired with his day job, and decided to create A.C. Neilsen ; to rate how well radio advertisers were doing. The company is still around today, trying to measure DVR and Netflix data, too. This was probably one of the original "crowdsourced" industries.. I mean, if you get "selected" today, they only pay you a dollar a week - if your data is on-time.
Criminal records, property records, articles of incorporation, lawsuits.. all were considered public record at one level or another. I was taught how to search all that paper at my local County Courthouse back in the mid- 1980s. At the time, only criminal records actually required that you produce ID and a legitimate reason to ask.
My sister was in an auto accident last summer. Before the local police were ready with a report " ...10 business days, lady..."; she received a letter from an attorney - with a copy of the accident report, asking if she needed any legal advice or representation.
Also, NJ State law about "Red Light Cameras" requires that the footage recorded is destroyed within 60 days - if nothing is illegal, or no charges filed; and within 90 days after the matter is settled ( if you are charged, and just pay the ticket) . Another case of nobody watching.. search YouTube and find at least 5, probably a dozen NJ Red Light Cam videos.. posted as marketing from the camera company! Big brother ( d/b/a private contractor) is watching, recording, and had their fingers crossed when they promised to destroy the footage.
It was around 1902-1904 that the Northeast's major Life & Medical insurers got together and built what we now call the MIB ( Medical Information Bureau). Any insurer.. and lots of other "qualified participants" ( =$ ?) can add, edit, or search these records about every one of us. Every time an insurance company paid a claim (or messed up a claim) medically, that info was added to the collection. Today, we just call this a database.
Again.. no protection here. Last time I checked, the MIB was voluntarily adopting a model similar to credit reporting agencies.. they would provide an individual with a personal report ( minus trade-secrets and scoring), and give the individual some rights to challenge incorrect info. Maybe it's a law now, but still.. no protection for nearly a century. Today, this info is used in Auto insurance policies, and even school admissions and job screening.
The interwebs have always had the potential for long-term data collection. I would have contributed more to Archive.org if I thought they'd eventually sell out to Google.. and who knew they were going to purge (or at least hide from public view) most records pre-1995, and nearly all of the fun Usenet postings.
Also, during a short visit in the world of LE, it was stupidly easy to call the local phone/ electric/ gas utility and find out a whole lot of personal info about the resident of ###North Elm road. Again, "metadata" along with a few personals.. is there a second line ( kids) in the house? Does power consumption drop on the "usual" curve... or is somebody up all night/ working nights? Telephone use - up/down in a pattern.. maybe the last two weeks does it coincide with the day before playoff games? Is the bill in (suspect's) name, or his mom, wife, friend? Do they pay on time - cash / check ? In person?
Since the oversight reforms of the 90's , we can't just run the license plate of every hot brunette that drove by at lunch time (anymore), nor can those calls be made to the utilities.. but for years.. again.. little or no protection, even from the gov't.
Of course, any respectable /.'er knows about data mining, and the anecdote about Target's pregnancy algorithm.
SO, I have to agree with OP. Nearly all this info has been available. Even I didn't realize how long it was open until I read up on it. Even if it used to take hours to dig through County paperwork, or days of surveillance to track a suspect's routine -- that all cost money in the form of labor. The data now can be collected through automated means; even if it takes a few hours or days to get a return, you don't pay computers by the hour. Only the limits of technology are going to define what "privacy" we retain going forward.
Post already too long.. I assure you, the facts can be supported.
My opinions, however, are probably questionable.