Thanks for the welcome -- and I will try to post on other issues -- my problem is not having the time -- its tough enough just keeping up with everything as it is! Personally I have spent the better part of the last three to four years working on a lot of issues discussed here and with a lot of the technology. I advised Progeny Linux Systems -- the Debian flavor, it gave me alot of insight as to what open source politics would be like and how the same principles could be applied. Really a lot of the same forces are at work if you think about it. Entrenched and flawed system, closed to everyone except the few that aim to keep control etc vs open dialogue, open collaboration, and a better solution emerging from the common actions of many. The country was not founded on the principle of self interest -- it was founded on the principle of the common good. And its fascinating to me how on every front its the commons we need to build again. Joe Trippi campaign manager Dean for America