Comment Re:Mr Shoe has been given the boot (Score 1) 60
A quick Googling doesn't come up with any German names attached to what the Gestapo called VerschÃrfte Vernehmung (enhanced interrogation techniques). Looking a bit farther brings you to the International Tribunal for the Far East (we took the Nuremberg playbook to Japan), and Japanese were convicted for waterboarding Americans.
Our legal system (military and civil) has dealt with and rejected waterboarding repeatedly. From the court martial of Major Edward Glenn, to United States v. Parker et al, to individual convictions overturned because of waterboarded confessions. Moving on to the Bush administration, it suddenly became specificaly authorized. Before they gave interrogaters legal protections, videos of interrogations at Guantanamo got "lost."
So we do waterboard, but we changed our definition of torture to exclude waterboarding. So we still don't torture.
Looking forward, Alberto Gonzales wrote that the Geneva Convention was "obsolete" when it came to the war on terror. In 1941, General-Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel mustered identical arguments against recognizing the Geneva rights of Soviet soldiers. Our prosecutors at Nuremberg cited his calling the Geneva Convention "obsolete" as an aggravating circumstance and got the death penalty. Keitel was executed in 1946. And yes, I'm looking forward to seeing Americans punished for torture.
You want me to reread your post and link to a statement that there were no Americans in the room when Hussein was executed. Reread my post- I explained that the reason given for not releasing many Guantanamo detainees are the same reason that we should not have released Hussein into Iraqi custody.
I also reread the part of your post where you said you weren't trying to be a troll. Try harder.
Our legal system (military and civil) has dealt with and rejected waterboarding repeatedly. From the court martial of Major Edward Glenn, to United States v. Parker et al, to individual convictions overturned because of waterboarded confessions. Moving on to the Bush administration, it suddenly became specificaly authorized. Before they gave interrogaters legal protections, videos of interrogations at Guantanamo got "lost."
So we do waterboard, but we changed our definition of torture to exclude waterboarding. So we still don't torture.
Looking forward, Alberto Gonzales wrote that the Geneva Convention was "obsolete" when it came to the war on terror. In 1941, General-Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel mustered identical arguments against recognizing the Geneva rights of Soviet soldiers. Our prosecutors at Nuremberg cited his calling the Geneva Convention "obsolete" as an aggravating circumstance and got the death penalty. Keitel was executed in 1946. And yes, I'm looking forward to seeing Americans punished for torture.
You want me to reread your post and link to a statement that there were no Americans in the room when Hussein was executed. Reread my post- I explained that the reason given for not releasing many Guantanamo detainees are the same reason that we should not have released Hussein into Iraqi custody.
I also reread the part of your post where you said you weren't trying to be a troll. Try harder.