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Journal Em Emalb's Journal: haha, I'm turning into an alcoholic... 28

So, yesterday I had a pretty bad day and so did Jen. We decided to go out to a local bar and hang with some friends. 6 Jaeger Bombs and 4 drinks later, it's 11:00pm. Had to hang out til the bar closed to ensure I was sober enough to drive home.

Got in around 2am, went to sleep around 2:45am. So tired. And hungover.

WTF? I'm too old for this shit. Who the hell gets drunk on a wednesday night when they have to get up at 5:45am? Ugh. ME WANT SLEEPY.

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haha, I'm turning into an alcoholic...

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  • One day I realized that everyone thought I was drunk. Not an alcoholic, a drunk. If you were near me it was likely a beer was nearby. So I thought to myself... self, You're not a drunk.

    So now I basically don't drink.

    Not evangelizing... just telling you I had the same basic feelings.
  • Had to hang out til the bar closed to ensure I was sober enough to drive home.

    You almost certainly weren't, although you might have felt that way. Google for any number of studies that show people incorrectly perceive their levels of sobriety after having been drunk. Of course, I have to wonder what you were doing driving to a bar in the first place when you intended to drink. Couldn't you have got a bus/train/cab?

    • Actually, I'm pretty certain I was good to drive. Tired and already hungover, but ok.

      I stopped drinking around 10pm. I got to the bar at 6:30pm. So, as I recall, I had 8 total drinks. Assuming the body metabolizes alcohol at roughly 1 drink per hour, and I was at the bar for a total of 7.5 hours, then I'd say when I left the place I was not entirely sober but not over the legal limit either.

      The bar was a couple miles from my house. No trains to take, no buses, especially ones that run at 2am, and takin
  • Not an alcoholic, but an At-Risk drinker. There is a WORLD of difference. Sure, teetotalers still think you have a problem (never mind that their problem is that they are too busy trying to get all up in YOUR "problems") but the medical/psychological community have a view that "we need to talk to you, make you aware of the risks you run, and recommend that you cut back." As opposed to "You need to stay away from a bottle and can't be trusted."

    Despite the physical consequences, I still think there is a p
    • hmmm... as being one of slashdot's token teetotalers, i would have say... meh.

      i don't care what someone does or does not drink. i don't need or want it. i have other forms of release (are they more "healthy?" i dunno, but i know they don't leave me in a potentially dangerous state).

      i see nothing wrong with anyone "getting pissed" either... as long as they don't go anywhere near an automobile, even if they *think* they are sober.

      here's something i don't understand. how does drinking make you liberated? i'm
      • i understand the whole inhibition thing with alcohol (one of the many reasons i don't like alcohol), but i fail to see how *that* could be associated with liberation.

        Then take off your blinders. ;)
      • *sigh*

        Yes, you are one of slashdot's token teetotallers. As one of slashdot's token alcohol producers, i have to chime in.

        First, to answer the question, you weren't sober enough to drive, at least not if the legal limits there are like the ones here.

        *smacks you in the head for not taking a cab*

        That's the RULE, damnit. You never drive after you've been drinking, especially not when you decide to "Sober up" enough to drive. EVER.

        Because if you aren't sober enough, you're making the determination while impaire
        • It's .08 in all 50 states and DC. Deleware was the last to join in this past year (or the year before?) Some states have lesser limits for lesser infractions, but that is far from universal.

          FYI, the difference between .08 and .10 is almost nothing. This affected very, very few drivers. It's largely a PR stunt by MADD to maintain relevance.
      • here's something i don't understand. how does drinking make you liberated? i'm not being ass, really, i just don't understand. i understand the whole inhibition thing with alcohol (one of the many reasons i don't like alcohol), but i fail to see how *that* could be associated with liberation.

        When I was skydiving, every single time, every single jump (I've done about 80 all in all), there was a lot of nervous anticipation. I was nervous exited during the ride up, I was definitely nervous in the door and then
    • Word is bond brotha, word is bond.

      I still think there is a psychological benefit to "getting pissed" upon occaision;

      Indeed. Today I am too tired and hungover to give two shits about my job. So that's a welcome break. ;)

      Plus, it ensures tonight I'll do nothing but curl up on the couch, order a pizza, and watch disk 4 of 24 Season 4. I probably won't drink though. ;)
    • Enormous psychological benefit.

      As far as the teetotallers are concerned, there seems to be a basic human need to evangelize... :-) Along with the "it worked for me, so it should work for everyone" concept (which is mostly wrong, except for the most general cases of "it").
    • theres no such thing as an "At-Risk Drinker." thats a feel-good label that the neo-prohibitionists created.
      Most alcoholics (Speaking as one here) are predisposed to having addictive personalities.
      Many people that go through a "program" shift their addictions to other venues. Sex, cigarettes, coffee, etc.

      You are either a person that can deal with alcohol and it's effects or not. People that are not able to deal with the effects and destroy their lives because they don't know when to stop are the ones that ge
  • I feel the same way this morning -- but I was just having Chinese food in Alpharetta last night at 10 pm -- no booze involved. Got home around 11:30, didn't go to sleep till after 3... And this morning I feel like I got run over by a truck. WTF is up with THAT?

    Still -- it was fun to go visit civilization for a change.

    I think getting blasted on a school night after a bad day is a great idea, Em. It makes you appreciate all the times that you DON'T do it. :-)

    ....Bethanie....
    • I figure getting 4 hours of sleep and probably not very restful sleep is what did ya in.

      The trials and tribulations of a full-time mom...not looking forward to that part of having kids.

      (the lack of sleep part)
      • Actually, Em, I gotta tell you -- cosleeping is pretty awesome. It's a hell of a lot easier than having to get up and fetch the baby in the middle of the night (which is what I'm doing now in an effort to "wean" her to sleeping in her own room, because I want to be able to have unimpeded wake-up sex with Hubby eventually).

        But when you're a new parent and the baby's waking up every couple hours... there's nothing nicer than being able to pop the boob in and doze right back off again.

        My problem isn't real
  • and no em, you are not an alcoholic. do some research, read the 12 steps from aa. you become an alcoholic when your drinking starts to interfere with your ability to live your life. its when you find yourself hiding and sneaking drinks... making excuses to drink, not showing up for work, to drink.

    things like that.

    what you described is just "normal."

    i am, like many, an expert in this. i didn't want to be, but i didn't get a vote.
    • Dude,

      I appreciate the explanation, but it wasn't needed.

      I was going for the tongue in cheek thing there.

      No worries...
      • hmph, okay. nevermind.
        nothing to see here, hey look! a rabid mongoose!

        *blinder runs from the room, trips, of course, on the door stop*
  • but it's directed at you, mister emalb. the wife and i caught "jarhead" at the dollar theatre the other night. i was wondering if you'd seen it, and if so, which parts of the movie might be close to how it actually went down. i understand that it might not be something you like to discuss, in which case don't.
    • Haven't seen it yet, mainly because a really good friend of mine who was also in the Corps said it pissed him off because it wasn't realistic.

      He said they only part they got right was the boredom you experience over there.

      I'm gonna netflix it, just haven't yet.
      thanks for the reminder.

      Curious, what did you think?
      • i thought to myself constantly as i watched it, "this is why i never joined the military."

        to me it seemed that its purpose was to illustrate how much it sucks to be a soldier, or more correctly, how difficult it is. it seemed more concerned with charging emotions than telling a great story. it was like a series of vingettes that happened to share common characters. boot camp sucks, everyone at home forgets you, friendly fire occurs, you hardly ever get a chance to do what you've worked so hard to be able

        • my father holds that it's nothing more than thinly veiled antiwar propaganda.


          Another buddy (army guy) says that this movie pisses all over the military. So I would imagine it is pretty anti-war, it did come out of Hollywood after all. :)

          I'm still going to watch it, eventually.
  • well, probably UNLIKE you, i was a dork growing up and refused to drink with my friends, even in college. i thought i was being a good boy. now that i'm "grown up", i actually really enjoy drinking and am living out my youth a bit; however, i'm making sure it doesn't affect things like school and work. on various weekends, i tend to experiment with all kinds of drinks for fun with the wife. she's in the same boat btw. we're living out our youth. :)

    now that i'm in school again though, i've stopped until
  • Em the slashdotaholic is worried about beer?

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