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Comment Depends on Reasons (Score 1) 42

Obviously, if you're interested in an evidence-based, rather than politically-based approach.

It depends very much on the reason for the change. It may be that the new proposed definition is for some good scientific reason that has little to do with the political/social need to classify a group of chemicals that build up over the long term in the environment and cause damage. Indeed, it would seem to me that you would be better off completely separating the two definitions since it seems likely that there are more "forever chemicals" than just pfas.

Comment Re:Really? (Score 1) 150

You realize it just needs to go wrong once?

Yes, but you do realize that if the environment was so finely balanced that the extinction of a handful of the thousands of mosquito species were enough to cause an ecosystem collapse on such a massive scale that it eradicated humans then such an event would already have happened and we would not be here discussing it as a possibility?

Doing something like this now is doing it without backup plan. And "repopulate"? Please. That is utterly naive.

Really? It is _much_ easier to repopulate them than to eradicate them - mosquitoes breed fast under ideal conditions which is something very easy to provide so that makes it a very viable back-up plan in the very unlikely event that we need it. I'm all for a cautious approach but surrendering to irrational fears of an insanely unlikely - and arguably basically impossible - consequence is, well irrational. If you are that concerned about miniscule probabilities, don't worry it is much more likely that we'll all be wiped out by an extinction-level meteoroid impact before anything like this happens.

Comment Ethical Consequences (Score 1) 150

Doing so will most likely have unforeseen consequences down the road causing mass damage to the ecosystem.

We should absolutely do ecological studies to determine the likely effects of eradicating the dangerous species of mosquitoes. However, given the benefit to human health we should absolutely not just assume that "bad things" will happen and abandon a plan that could save millions of lives. Indeed, it may be that the largest ecological impact will be human population surges in areas hit currently by mosquitoe-borne diseases like malaria and if that is the case I do not see how it is at all ethical to tell all those people that millions of them have to die to preserve the ecological balance.

Comment Really? (Score 1) 150

Until we do, one such move could kill the human race. Fremi [sic] Paradox anyone?

Thosands, if not millions, of species have gone extinct since humans evolved and not all of those extinctions are due to humans.I would agree that ecological studies need to be done before we try this but if we keep some mosquitoes in captivity we can always re-populate the species should the ecological rebalancing cause problems. However, I see no real possibility that such a rebalancing would be an existential threat to us. Indeed, we've already eradicated multiple species including passenger pigeons, dodos and wooly mammoths all of which were food sources and so far more likely to impact human existence than mosquitoes.

It's also not at all clear why we would know so much better in a few centuries - science can't deliver certainty and you cannot calculate the odds of something you do not know anything about occurring...but given that none of the species we have inadvertently eradicated - plus the few we have deliberately killed like the small pox virus - have had serious consequences for us it seems highly unlikely that eradicating the dangerous species of mosquitoes would harm us but, even if it did, we could still re-populate from those we have repserved in captivity.

Comment Broader Ecological Impact (Score 2) 150

What about the animals that depend on mosquitos for food?

That's too specific. The more general question we need to know the answer to is what would the ecological impact be of removing mosquitoes from the environment. It might be that some predator populations would decline but it may also be that some other species surges in numbers to fill the ecological gap left by eradicating mosquitoes. It would not be a great improvement if mosquitoes were replaced by some other, potentially worse biting insect or, if the population of predators relying on mosquitoes declined would that allow some other insect population to surge as a result?

We'd obviously need answers to this broader question before eradicating them but, provided we kept some mosuitoes alive in captivity, it is much easier to undo an eradication that it is to undo the introduction of a new species and given the potential benefits, provided we have this safeguard and the studies suggest no significant, negative ecological impact it would seem reasonable to try it.

Comment Training does Respect Copyright (Score 1) 99

AI firms won't pay to respect copyright

They do not need to pay. Copyright, as the name says, is the right to copy and distributute something. So long as you purchase a legal copy you are allowed to use it as you wish provided you do not distribute copies.

If I buy a book the copyright holder cannot tell me that I'm only allowed to read 5 pages a day, or that I can't use it to balance a table, prop open a door or even burn it. Similarly, they can't tell me that I'm not allowed to use it to train a machine learning algorithm provided that the algorithm does not reproduce copies of parts of the book - if it does that then it is breaking copyright.

I get that some authors think they should be compensated more simply because companies are using their books etc. to train AI algorithms that make them money but if they want that they need to get the law changed.

Comment Re:Wrong Problem (Score 1) 39

It was not coding but if an AI cannot understand a simple request to extract one piece of information from a text document then I can guarantee it is going to have problems understanding the far more complex instructions that will be necessary to construct the code needed to do the analysis to extract that information in the first place.

It may be that those limits have expanded in the past few months although that example is only a month old. However, I'd be surprised if my original point does still not hold i.e. that the problem with AI coding is still going to be putting together instructions that are precise enough and that it can understand in order to get it to produce the code that you need. This will be especially true with code that may be doing something less common - like scientific analysis - for which it has either little or extremely poor quality (looking at my own and fellow physicists' code!) training data.

Comment Give it a Choice: Telecom or Media (Score 2) 77

YouTube needs to be regulated as a telecom provider.

It should be given the choice. Either it gets regulated like a telecom provider in which case it cannot discriminate against content unless it is illegal and, in return, cannot be prosecuted for material on its servers OR it gets regulated like regular media in which case it has editorial control over the content it serves but is then legally liable for that content.

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