A Plymouth Voyager. Being rather tall, being able to sit upright comfortably is important, rather than trying to lay in something smaller and less safe for my legs/head.

Animal blood is bad for the clear coat, so tying it down to the outside is bad for the vehicle and gets the animal dirty... a tarp in the back works far better.

What, in your unsupported opinion, makes the F150 Lightning "a piece of garbage"?

That was never my opinion, nor have I used the word "garbage" to describe it.

The claim earlier was "It is an excellent vehicle, all around great", some here disagreed, as did I, based on my experience at a Ford dealership. My only shared criticism here was the limited range in winter... how does that translate to me calling it "a piece of garbage"?

I have experienced zero issues over 50,000 miles. It is not a piece of garbage, it may be the best vehicle I've ever owned. I'm not saying its for you or for everyone, certainly not garbage. I wouldn't use it for towing anything very far.

You keep using the same word, over and over again here which only the OP used, once... either you grossly misread what I said here, or you are accidentally revealing your true feelings about the vehicle and expressing regret.

Given the market reaction to the Lightning, and Ford ending production... maybe not everyone is as happy with them as you are? I used to drive a Pontiac Aztek, and loved it (second best hunting vehicle I've owned), and was very sad when it finally died and had to be sold for scrap. I was a minority in that, and I recognize that, and that's ok.

Hmm, mine has a range over 300 miles, real actual miles.

In what climate?

My v8 2019 F150 doesn't flinch at doing 600 miles on a single tankful, in winter.

I bought mine used with 1100 miles, 20% off sticker.

And? You still probably ended up paying 2-4x what I did for mine.

You talked to a dealer that doesn't want to sell EVs,

In your unsupported opinion.

Why wouldn't a dealer want to sell to someone wanting to buy?

in place where most people don't like EVs.

Plenty of Tesla's in Sioux Falls, which includes at least 3 Cybertrucks... again, you keep giving opinions which don't help, or considering that the views you believe others have may have some basis in reality.

Are you surprised you got a low opinion?

No, I listen to what the opinions are of the dealer and consider it along with what else I know, without seeking to influence what they say.

Seriously, drive one.

What am I going to get from the driving experience? What untold amazement will I have that changes my mind and will compel me to go get one?

It is an excellent vehicle, all around great.

And owning and driving one is enough to convince someone of that?

I'll admit, I've never owned or driven one, though last year when shopping for a new pickup I saw one parked on a Ford dealership I was looking at. It was new so out of my price range, so I got chatting with the salesman (and didn't say my limits) about if it was any good. Turns out it was being driven by the manager, who mostly hated it. Max range he said, in winter was 100-150 miles. Maybe for city driving that's ok, but in South Dakota , a drive down to Sioux Falls for a Costco or Target run is going to give quite a bit of range anxiety.

That's 'all around great'?

Again, this was what I was getting from a Ford dealership!

But the West restricts EV imports, so the prices are much higher.

We do the same thing with light trucks, yet they still sell quite well domestically, despite the higher price. ... maybe price isn't the only determining factor?

Time to start visiting the Church of All Worlds!

Tron isn't in Tron 3... clearly the fight was lost.

What does nimbyism have to do with anything here?

The claim would be it's primarily NIMBY folks who prevent more construction and in more places, leading to landlords having more power and ability to make renters jump through such hoops.

If only it was that simple.

They still have assets in the state in question, which means they are very much reachable.

Sounds like misinformation right there, perhaps a ban is in order?

Oh wait... I wasn't advocating for bans nor pushing definitons.

Removing misinformation is not illegal either. It's common sense.

Who decides it's misinformation?

Quite a few times things which were deemed misinformation back during the COVID times turned out to be different than official sources said (at first or later).

When such heavy hands occur, especially when the government is pushing it, it makes the act seem extra suspicious, or so I've heard for the last week along cries of fascism.

Which is why I took advantage of the pandemic to GTFO of the Seattle area and are now in a much better place, the issue is always that not all companies are open to remote work, and those who are have states they can/can't hire in.

Remote work has not continued the way many had hoped. Too many companies, Microsoft included have largely decreed that if you want to keep your job, you're going to have to live/work in one of their hubs, or be very lucky. As a result, not only are many stuck there, but many medium and small companies have done the same. Yes, remote jobs exist, they are just few and far between and much harder to get than even a couple of years ago.

And fund schools enough

Enough⦠according to who?

Given weâ(TM)ve been throwing more and more money at (public) education for decades and decades and havenâ(TM)t seen the kinds of results desired or promised⦠maybe itâ(TM)s not simply a money issue?