Without getting into any ethics, heal, virtue, type questions, I will just say this in defense of the parent.

I have had several friends who wanted to stop eating meat but struggled to convert to their ethical target of Pescetarian/Vegitarian/Vegan-ism

All of them really wanted meat and would try to satisfy their cravings with fauxmeat products. All this was in the era before 'beyond meat' so maybe it is different now, but they all pretty much reported that eating something like a Boca burger; generally left them unsatisfied and made their cravings for the real thing continue.

When they quit trying to find meat substitutes and make dishes traditionally prepared with meat products, and instead turned to vegetarian foods that were just 'good in their own right' and living on thoes, that when they really stopped feeling like they just had to a have cheese burger or disparately wanting fried chicken etc.

Censorship aside, it is really a shame more of the world does not have a 'First Amendment", I don't see the internet getting some enforceable national borders as a bad thing.

Nations and societies must have laws to function. Democratic nations have right enforce those laws ( derived from the consent of the governed ). Yes I would argue places like China DO NOT have a right to enforce their law, only the might to do it.

With so much commerce and general activity being online now nations need to both legal authority and enforce-ability over online activity. As a citizens I think everyone should want the laws governing their online life to be defined by people who are answerable to their votes, rather than by some "intentional community", where many of the most reprehensible regimes are given a platform or even just the whims of some foriegn power with more global economic influence then your own nation.

Tells you all you need to know right there. The term has lost all meaning. It is now one of those things a lot like 'fascist' which used to mean something but now just means 'anyone who voted differently than I did.'

A "vibe" might influence peoples willingness to embrace pessimistic vs optimistic approaches to problem solving, risk adversity vs courage to try new things. It can't however help us get to actual solutions. Those have to come from people actually thinking intelligently about the problem.

Why - pessimism. The vast majority are in a bad mood. Nobody is willing to move off even their most peripheral planks because they don't really believe any new ideas might actually be better. "enshitification" turning into a vibe is the same thing. You already see it in the comments here. Nobody is looking to make anything better or propose something that could actually work. Its all mixture of 'there is nothing wrong really', 'there is nothing we can do', and 'just turn it all off', or 'I have just quit it all'.

The simple fact is the VC money has moved on, these things never became profitable out side of a few giants like Alphabet. Ad revenues just are not what they used to be on a per impression basis, Amazon, Microsoft, and others are starting to charge people actual cost for compute and storage.. the winners are doing just fine. They are already supper successful, even if making the pie larger might mean more total growth it is safer for them to sit and let the holders of the smaller slices wane until they can be acquired. The Internet market place is already consolidated enough that the names you know are essentially gatekeepers. If someone tries to switch revenue models, the big guys won't follow, they might even make their experience less-shitty for a time at the cost of some revenue just to strange the new idea in its cradle. Once one more player fails they will just crank the ads, and microtransactions up one more notch and the boiling of the frogs continues..

You need a clearly articulated problem *and solution* that consumers will rally behind even if it is costlier to them at first to make a change. "Vibes" won't cut it.

Nobody is denying mental illness is real, or that there are people with untreated mental illness.

Yeah sure except all those gender fluids right, they're just gay every other Tuesday or whatever. Meanwhile 40 years of human genome project no-gay gene. So we are left with it is either a social or environmental cause, either way homosexuality is still just untreated disease/injury.

No abortion is MURDER. People who provide them are murders, people who advocate for it are guilty of crimes against humanity and should face trial.

99% negative coverage of Donald Trump. They told truth about the Public options because, lying about it would have destroyed credibility back in a time when they still had some. The public options would have obliterated access to private insurance for 80% of people who currently had coverage in less than decade if not faster. We all know that. You know it. Just like you know the rest of the ACA is a utter failure and are currently petrified the public is about to lean how unaffordable it really is without constant support from more deficit spending to the point you have to shut down the government. They you will tell use the GOP can't govern.

I read you stuff and can't conclude anything other than you are the biggest chunk of malignant shit on the entire internet!

Their mosque told them to stay home because "Free Palestine" or something similar. If it even happened. Links or your lying like usual.

Okay .. now define proper auditing!

Sure you can have a decently skilled developer or infosec practitioner spend a couple days looking over even a fairly large codebase and get pretty confident it isn't sending reverse shells to some team in the DPRK or your creepy cousin that is 54 but still lives in your aunts basement.

However you can't be sure it does not have logic or filter flaws, or that the ones it does have are unknown to others and/or were not intentionally introduced..Reality is one XSS vulnerability in the right hands can nerf just about every other web security protection that exists, oh you turned CSP on - good for you, but you use Google for something and they still use JSON-P in a bunch of places..

If you are really doing the depth of audit you'd need to find carefully placed XSS backdoor in something complex you are looking several week of effort at $10K (likely more) to hire anyone to do it. Now maybe going full NNIH (Nothing Not Invented Here) mode would cost as much and have as many issues, but at least you could be more confident they ware not intentional and there isn't a threat actor waiting with the exploit ready for someone to take their bait.

I am not saying we should all stop using libraries from public repositories or anything like that. We do need to think more about this problem thought because 'Just Audit it' really does not work. Look at OpenSSL for example, it has had a lot of eyes and yet there were a lot of severe defects that persisted for a long time, until some people put some real $$$ into auditing it, and still more issues are being found. Again these are just 'honest bugs' as far as we know, good luck being sure there are no intentional plants...

We have an entire agency the NSA that literally is chartered among other things to do this stuff. NIST also not gone does all the real valuable work by actually researching and setting some standards. CISA is not gone, DHS is anything but gone and also doing cyber security it is just the let's veer wildly out of our lane Censorship enthusiasts like Jankowicz that are.

Let's be totally real here, NSA leadership has decided it is more fun to play super spy over and over again rather than engage in the obvious meat and potatoes work that really needs doing. Those other agency efforts have been letting more than political cronies abuse whoever the admin does not like, and have failed to accomplish anything other than cranking lower quality guidance and benchmark documents than NIST already produces.

CISA is basically just waste fraud and abuse.

Let me guess never in your life have arrived at a shop and found it was closed, because the hours listed in the Yellow Pages were wrong, or they'd closed up in the last month. You have never arrived at the theater and found the should you wanted to see isn't there because someone did not update the website or put in the wrong information?

If you have double check everything the Chat bot tells you, why bother with it in the first place? Seems like a way a stupid person would waste a lot of time. The issue application. Asking the AI if the hardware store is open when the consequence of it being wrong is I drive a few extra miles to Lowe's and deal with the more limited selection of whatever there. Is a great use of AI. I have saved time trying to make a call waiting for someone to answer or not, or trying to find their website, trying to locate their hours on said website, so on. If I drive by and see the open sign isn't lit i don't even have to stop the car, the consequences for being wrong are low.

On the other hand I would not let GenAI plan my vacation. I might ask for some suggestions about popular attractions and things to do at $PLACE but I'd probably make some phone calls, look at reliably ideally first party sources for things like time tables etc; because yeah using the AI to find out there is a ferry every 2 1/2 hours, but having it neglect to mention it does not run after 8p until 6:30am and being stuck on the island over night with no place to stay and no gear isn't a fun time.

It all comes down to starting with an understanding of how important being *correct* is. Just like with various tools and information sources before, quality varies, effort varies, pick the right tool for the job.

Exactly you only have to look at the relative wages / prestige shift of the mainframe era to micro developer in the 80s and 90s.

It is isn't as if all those little record keeping, production planning, order taking, this-and-that calculators that got churned out in BASIC, a little later, pascal, VB, Visual C and finally VBA + Access and .Net 1.x were exactly bug free.

They were fast and cheap and bolted together snippets out of 'teach your self texts', news groups and later the first Web 2.0 blogs. If they worked 90% that was fine and those other times someone did it by hand or ran some other kludgy "util" to fix it.

Either way those guys were a long way from the software engineers who did not get to work on anything important until they'd proven they'd at least studied a lot of theory.

Vibe coding will be exactly the same but it now its lowing the bar even more. At least in the current generation had to learn enough (even if it was by trial and error + googling it) to get something to either build most of the time or do something other than print a wall of text starting out like 'ERUNTIME:'

This next wave will be people that don't know much more and composing relatively clear instructions (a skill) in English and patience to iterate and test. Never the less those are skills even more widely held and the compensation will be commiserate.

No it won't create more jobs. Because just like before those 'apps' will 'good enough' and the ones where good enough isn't enough, will still be built in cube farms by people with diplomas on the wall. It will reduce the total amount of work because the just ask one of the pros to do it so it gets done incentive will be reduced. If it only takes a day or two let cousin Bobby 'give it go first' that is what people will do.

Kids are not dumb. They can seen plainly how fast the world is chaining even if it is a world they don't completely understand yet.

They know perfectly well that investing a bunch of energy into learning all about tech toy du jour isn't going to mean **** for their futures. If they are interested their interested, but if not the ones who feel it is a waste of time are absolutely correct!

These companies cynically see Schools and universities are a marketplace in their own right, or worse an opportunity to get'em while they are young and hook them on their tech ecosystem for a future sales pipeline.

Primary and secondary ed need to get back to basics if kids are going to have any chance the way things are going. If you get good at reading, composing, decent background in mathematics at least up to differential calculus there is very little else you could not teach yourself if you have to...

Secondary schools should also do little working with your hands stuff. Not so much so kids learn to be wizards about getting worn out two-stroke mowers to run, but so they have some sense of what it feels like to hold a wrench and bit a sense about what the appropriate torque on fine thread steel fasteners holding two aluminum structures together might be/feel like.

There is time lean to applied {insert topic} in university. But sending kids out into the world with a lot of knowledge about python syntax but no idea what AST probably stands for in the context of software is a recipe for someone to have a lot trouble adapting later. Now imagine teaching them to be "prompt engineers" gee wiz, let's be honest here for a just moment, "prompt engineering" is basically just working the quirks and deficiencies in the current tech, it is supposed to be natural language processing after all! If you have to be some prompt wizard to get the most useful output all that mean is the AI aint all that smart yet, and is bound to be improved until such skill isn't needed either.

Now if you instead taught kids about matrix math and model weights well, that might translate..

The complaining about both sides being bad argument is an escape hatch for having to deal with their own hypocrisy.

"first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye"

Both sides are bad, awful really every sneaky underhanded anti-democratic act you can accuse a politically important member of either major party, someone of relatively equal importance in the other party has done the same and recently! You either choose to not see or you consume only highly biased partisan new sources.

If you don't have hold your nose while voting in at least national elections, you're the one with moral failings.

Not everything is about smarts though, some of it is just volume.

How many polymer formation can you model and observe properties of in the search for some new plastic material for a specific application. The AI does not have to be smarter, it just has to be faster than the human material scientists before it.

command structures ... like Antifa International.

I am starting to become convinced YOU are in fact one of these terrorists.

It is kind of a circular problem though. If you have not got the talent because the domain is new to you; how do your train up talent in the area? Who is going to do this training?

Right now 'high end' AI/ML in the commercial space is rather leading the academic space. So there probably is a very real issue finding a pool of people with 'enough background' to figure out, if you are really trying to do something that is actually avaunt guard.

https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.supremecourt.gov%2Fo...

There you are! anything else I can help you google?