The EU actually agreed to bring the UK into Horizon as part of the Brexit agreement.

From the EU Website:

How will the UK be associated to Horizon Europe?
Through the Trade and Cooperation Agreement between the EU and the UK (TCA). All
aspects of the UK association to Horizon Europe were agreed on 24 December 2020 in the
TCA and documents attached to the Agreement. The association will enter into force through
the formal adoption of a Protocol that is already agreed in principle. No additional
negotiations are foreseen.

https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fec.europa.eu%2Finfo%2Fsite...

Clearly the EU has decided that 'Agreement in principle' can sometimes mean 'we changed our mind'.
That's their choice of course - but they're cutting off their nose to spite their face.

I started looking into that but you rapidly start getting into number of storage tanks per pump, number of pumps, size of storage tanks, number of deliveries, size of deliveries.. then there are the number of cars usually serviced, the frequency, the impact of people stockpiling..

It's interesting but too much to fit in amongst work so I decided to merely accept that getuid() and I disagree, without properly enumerating the size of the challenge of meeting his expectations.

That'll be why Trump and his legal team and other supporters of his have won several court cases relating to the election.

Please, pretending evidence doesn't exist doesn't magic it away. It still exists.

Given how the idiot squad piled on in outrage (then other members used 'troll' moderations to try and silence non-trolling views) I'm very comfortable that what you call 'bullshit' is good common sense.

https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2Fa%2Fmu1HfZ5 has too many utter fuckwits in it for me to be wrong.

Yeah, that's a lot more difficult to factor in.

But bear in mind that their parents are probably under 50, almost certainly under 60, so their parents are at exceedingly low risk too.

Especially if they've been vaccinated. Unless the vaccine doesn't work, in which case why are we stabbing children?

Yeah, there's too much evidence to pretend that's the case.

Shit, he admitted it himself: https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F...

It was going great until the US election got fixed and a dementia ridden imbecile that hates the UK because he's "Irish". Now it's merely "better than the EU".

You do realise the UK imported meat from Australia before signing the deal? No, you don't. That would require knowing something instead of parrotting someone else's propaganda.

Thanks for linking to the anti-brexit BBC and to the politically biased fullfact.

I don't live in a different reality, I use information sources that go beyond a mass media that still can't accept that after a referendum, a general election, a european election and another general election, the UK doesn't want to be part of an EU superstate.

It's been a clear and consistent message and it would be lovely if people could actually get behind their country instead of repeatedly trying to betray it to the EU.

Oh, I'm sorry the facts upset you. Go and do your own fucking research on supermarkets and fuel stations in Poland.

I went shopping yesterday. There were empty shelves: The local co-op is out of eggs.

They get their eggs from a farm that's 16 miles away. Oh no, let's blame Brexit!!

Do the EU countries have full shelves? I'm confident that their stock levels are at best no better than the UK.

Let's recap this conversation.

"There are 0 entries in the system"
"Here is direct evidence that entries were added to the system"
"That's not data!"

Yeah, I think you misunderstand the point of sharing the video.

I'm genuinely curious.

Are you truly so fucking stupid that you actually believe this, or are you intentionally lying to us, in which case why?

How _is_ Brexit making this worse?

Shit, the industry has been described this week as 'low pay with terrible working conditions' - in the same articles pointing out that 99% of workers are 'white men'.

Not being able to import more white men from the EU (not that there are any available; there are shortages there too) who will be willing to work in shitty conditions for low pay means haulage companies will have to improve conditions and improve pay. Maybe even to a level that women and non-white men might even consider taking jobs.

Seems to me there's a direct causation that Brexit will improve diversity and raise wages for a currently exploited group of workers. I can support that.

What you're forgetting is that petrol stations receive 1-2 deliveries a week.

So even assuming everybody fills their car every 2 weeks, there'll be 2-3 deliveries to restock through that period.

If everybody fills their car on the same day, you now need to supply 3-4 times your normal stock levels in a single day.

Your argument is that they should have the reserves to do that. So you've just tripled or quadrupled the capital tied up in stock, purely to handle a very very rare event.

It doesn't make financial sense. It's beyond the economics of most fuel stations. They just don't have that much money.