Comment What about the pork? (Score 1) 669
On average humans who eat beef with a quality and varied diet grow strong.
The Chinese, who invented pork, survived for thousands of years without eating beef.
On average humans who eat beef with a quality and varied diet grow strong.
The Chinese, who invented pork, survived for thousands of years without eating beef.
Lots of people eat meat because it tastes good, not because of the protein.
I'd say far more people eat meat because of the seasoning. Try eating meat without the salt, onions, ketchup, barbecue sauce, etc. Raw, unadulterated meat appeals only to a very small sub-category of whole food eaters. The problem with veggiemeat isn't the taste, which can be masked by spices both ways (the reason why chicken curry doesn't taste like KFC or beef stew doesn't taste like beef barbecue), but the texture. Unfortunately for vegans, the problem can only be fixed at the cellular or maybe tissue level, not via some fancy food preparation techniques, so lab grown animal tissues is the only solution to the animal "crruelty" problem.
I suspect that only Clarke's proverbial magical technology can bring about this true communist ideal, when every person can 3-D print his or hers every need, from their food to their clothes to their jet packs.
I suspect that nothing short of that coupled with a benevolent AI which allocates wealth can bring about a true communist ideal, because some humans are always trying to have more than other humans so they can feel like they're better than they are. This is why anarchy leads naturally to feudalism.
What is wealth but the potential to acquire the things that you want? This would be fully satisfied by universal self-production. Only the truly sociopathic would desire to have more than 10 cars when a single one would do fine. And if I'm happy having one or say at most three different cars (sports, sedan, and off-road), why should I care if the billionaire next door has 365 cars for each day of the year? I think there's a practical limit to human envy and greed. Or to put it in more practical terms, if you're the hungry homeless guy on the street you can look longingly through fast-food restaurant window at the Big Mac on the corner table feasting on two quarter pounders one after the other, but if you're a fellow diner who had just finished your own McChicken lunch (after having become mildly ecoconscious from watching some famous Hollywood actor's documentary about the relationship between cow farts and climate change), does it matter if the guy sitting next to you has a dozen quarter pounders piled on his table?
Not socialist, definitely not that, and not communist in any meaningful way.
To be pedantic (i.e. meaninglessly strict in meaning), no country today is Communist. Communism is supposed to be the end state, when the state and the party wither away, leaving behind a classless society of equals. That's the theory anyway. As for the practice, we can see very fine example of how it's not done. I suspect that only Clarke's proverbial magical technology can bring about this true communist ideal, when every person can 3-D print his or hers every need, from their food to their clothes to their jet packs. At which point we'd see a convergence of the extreme forms of various non-mainstream secular ideologies, from libertarianism to anarchism to Star Trek socialism.
Whether by causation, co-evolution, or correlation, every great tech leap forward came with a corresponding food revolution.
Mastery of fire, or at least some control over it, brought cooking, giving our protohuman ancestors the meal ticket to the tougher meats and plant fibers that previously were thrown away or pooped as indigestible (a literally fiber-rich diet). Agriculture brought on the eating of grass and, coupled with the by then already ancient technology of cooking, the fine art of baking or the making of what is basically edible clay: bread, cakes and their fluffy, crumbly, crunchy and spongy allies. In the modern era, who hasn't, at some point in their lives, consumed the junk and fast food churned out by the Industrial Revolution and the subsequent development of mass production?
Following this pattern, there's no doubt that any tech Singularity will be not just a much ballyhooed AI singularity but a dinner plate singularity as well. We or our immediate descendants will become regular consumers of food that, while they may already exist in some preliminary or experimental form, haven't even gone under the noses of most humans alive today. And the surprising thing is most likely dinner would be served just like the the steak and fried chickens we already eat, but produced through the wonders of truly Frankensteinian bioengineering.
No, I'm not talking about converting plant fibers into meat as the summary and the vegan pornoganda appear to imply, but the growing of the meat without the chemical and thermal energy hogs that come along with it. That is, animal tissues grown in an oversized Petri dish stuffed with all the necessary ingredients for them to grow to a form and size big enough and ready to be cut, if not butchered, seasoned, then roasted or fried and served on a dinner plate as nature identical steak. Or maybe nearly identical, with much of the bad cholesterol engineered out or replaced with the supposedly good cholesterol of aqua based animals.
If you have stocks in a cattle or chicken raising company, sell out now, while you still have a healthy profit margin. Natural meats are going to be replaced faster than e-cigarettes will displace tobacco.
Now if you're heavily invested in the food industry, your options boil down to a choice between the increasingly vegan whole foods companies being gobbled up by the likes of Amazon, or the traditional meat processing companies, which can easily shift from producing ham and hamburgers with inputs sourced from creatures that eat hormones and GMOs to meat derived from headless and gutless animal zombies fed a steady cocktail of who knows yet what set of micronutrients.
Yes, in the future non-paleo meat lovers will have to content themselves with eating lab grown meat. That or they will have to suffer the indignity of meat made out of plant cells. But there's no way traditional animal agriculture can flourish in the new anti-greenhouse gases regime. Now that there's an active movement trying to link meat production to climate change in particular and unsustainable development in general. Cattle farming will become the new coal industry, set to soon collapse both from pressure from the ecozealots and from competition by the Frankenfood industry. Let's just hope somebody opensources or leaks the essential gentech needed to grow headless pork bellies and chicken wings.
Well that's enough of my Slashrant for the hour. Be back after my Big Meal of the Day.
It mostly missed the boat on game voyeurism but is trying to catch up there.
? So what's the most popular site ATM to get your video game walkthrus/demos?
Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Godel's Theorem. -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"