Must I?
The OP article tangentially asserted that this was an amazing breakthrough because only 1/3 of the people who could be taking HIV preventative product weren't doing so, and this would offer them another option for avoiding HIV.
I wish your recap wasn't wrong in the first portion, but okay. the summary ACTUALLY SAYS: but they're taken by "only a little more than one-third of people in the U.S. who could benefit". Not your assertion that only 1/3 WEREN'T doing so. With such a simple mistake, can we trust any more of your recap? Lets see.
I asserted, somewhat tongue in cheek
Absolutely agree you were going for the "It was only a joke" route.
, that maybe people wouldn't need HIV avoidance drugs quite so much if they weren't fucking indiscriminately like rabbits. This is an inarguable fact: having less indiscriminate sex makes it less likely you get HIV.
Absolutely agree less sex = less likely to get HIV. Never said otherwise. What makes you believe this matters when it's not 0%?
Your reply - which is a fairly standard 'internet bullshit tactic' - is to take an hilariously marginal peripheral cause, rape* and infidelity** as ...what, an attempt to refute(?) that being responsible and mature in the application of your sexual habits is materially significant in reducing ones' exposure to HIV?
The subject of your comment was "Or..." It wasn't "And...", implying your method would be as effective as a vaccine would. That is patently bullshit, as shown by two examples which your "just don't fuck" method of HIV prevention doesn't work with.
What a silly point badly made.
Stop and consider the situation women are in here. From https://worldpopulationreview.... "For the year 2010, South Africa had the highest rate of rape in the world at 132.4 incidents per 100,000 people. In a survey released by the South African Medical Research Council in 2009, approximately one in four men admitted to committing rape. However, the government in South Africa is working to address this dysfunction, and proponents maintain that the rate has dropped to 72.1 in 2019-20 reporting."
25% ADMITTED TO COMMITTING RAPE. This is what women in South Africa (where the study was conducted) are putting up with.
Then you try to assert that an individual's choice of getting a vaccine isn't driven by what causes the majority of cases.
Er...What? What CAUSES the cases is EXACTLY why people would decide it's worth the $ and potential risk of taking a vaccine.
People don't get HIV just walking down the street....duh? It's not RANDOM.
What you fear and what a woman in the study fears are two different things. As I've already said, people are more fearful of flying than driving to the airport for the flight, but it is statistically much more dangerous to be in the car than the plane. (I think Boeing's MAX actions are trying to reverse that statistic though)
We're not giving anti-malarials to everyone on Earth because lots of people have a vanishingly tiny chance of being exposed to malaria.
Have I missed a part of this study where the vaccine is being recommended to everyone on Earth?
I can go today and schedule vaccines for Malaria if I wanted to, just tell my Dr I'm travelling and I'm set.. The WHO recommends vaccination against Malaria where it is prevalent essentially like they recommend FLU vaccines where the FLU is prevalent. https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.who.int%2Fnews%2Fitem%2F...
If they create a perfect, 100% effective preventative vaccine against Monkeypox, I'm not taking it because a) I'm in a stable, happy, long term relationship, and b) neither of us frequent gay BDSM conventions which seems to be the primary vector of spread.
I'm unsure why this matters to this conversation? Are you implying since you don't go to BDSM conventions it is impossible for you to be raped or for your partner to cheat on you? I am unsure what the connection is there.
I'm not sure why you're so ardently insisting that responsible sexual behavior doesn't matter here? Well, I can pretty obviously suspect your motivation, of course.
When did I say anything at all about responsible sexual behavior, other than that it is not the only reason to get a vaccine that is effective against HIV? I'd love to hear your thoughts on my motivation here.
* (what % of sex outside of long term relationships is rape? 0.00001%?)
0%. As the National Sexual Violence Resource Center will remind us, Sex without consent isn't sex, it's rape. https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nsvrc.org%2Fpublicat...
** (which is higher, but I'm going to guess the number of people being "unfaithful" to a legally-bound spouse is still vastly smaller than the number of people just having one-night stands or short term (1 month) "relationships")
Again, it doesn't matter in this situation which is higher unless the smaller number is literally 0. This data is all pretty easy to find. One example I'll use: https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftechreport.com%2Fstatist...
1: The percentage of men and women in 2017 who cheated on their partners was 20% and 13%.
3: 16% of married couples admitted to being unfaithful at some point in their marriage.
5: According to research, 57% of marriages ended in divorce due to infidelity.
I am happy for you that you have never been sexually assaulted or cheated on. You're in the majority. But the Minority isn't 0, so why someone would decide to get a Vaccine or not get a vaccine doesn't need to be because they decided they want to fuck like bunnies at a BDSM party.