
Journal Bill Dog's Journal: tipping 11
No, not of cows. (Altho I did go to quite a podunk school, with a lot of farm boys. But I would never do that to ole Bessie. Besides, you shouldn't play with your food.) Tipping waiters and other service providers.
Some people say you should start at 10%, and if service is above-and-beyond, tip 15%, and if it's poor, tip 5%, and if it absolutely sucks, tip nothing. Or leave a penny. (Or put it in an upside-down full glass of water on the table -- I never understood what was so great about this, as it can be removed without spilling the water the same way it was placed.) Anyways, I've only left a single penny once in my life. Only once has everything been wrong.
Waiters of course say you should start at 15%, and then only deduct if something majorly is wrong that they don't correct or make up for, and go up if service is excellent.
My folks, maybe it's old-fashionedness, have their own ideas about tipping. That is, maybe these were conventions (or urban folklore) of old. They tip 15% (and rounded -- more on that in a minute) if service is good, 10% if it's rotten. My dad has mentioned that technically you don't (need to) tip on the tax amount. (But not to forget to tip on the total bill even if you're using a gift card and not shelling out the cash for the full amount of the bill.) My mom has mentioned that you don't need to tip on the alcohol portion of the bill. Oh well, they're retired and on a fixed income, not to mention watching the value of their savings shrink as the dollar does. So I guess they can have their shortcuts.
My sister's like me in one way, but like them in another. Both she and I tip 20%. We both settled on that independently, not having ever talked about it, until one day we both found out that the other does it too. Neither of us were ever waiters. But it wasn't so long ago for us when we didn't hardly make any money. And we're all just trying to get ahead. So I think we both think to be generous with those in lower pay scales, as the high cost of living is disproportionately harder on them.
But something peculiar she does that she got from my folks, is to set the tip such that it rounds the total charge to an even dollar amount. I do that on the rare occasion I'm paying cash, as I figure someone doesn't want to carry around change all day. If that's even what happens/how it goes. But on a credit card? But she and her husband don't reconcile their monthly credit card bills, they just glance at them and look for anything that catches their eye as maybe being not right. So I guess they think whole dolar amount charges helps in that respect. I match my statement with my charge slips, so I just let the amounts fall where they may.
So who gets 20%? Everyone, pretty much. Even if there's a flaw in the service, I don't like to "punish" people. I can only remember a specific time once where I tipped 15% -- at a fancy restaurant with high prices and skimpy portions, and lousy food at that, and I was picking up the bill, and it was large, and a rip, IMO, and I only left 15% that night. I would've had to have overall liked the experience to leave 20%, as that's a large number on a huge bill. But maybe I shouldn't have done that. It's not the waiter's fault the place was a rip. Altho it's partly the cooks' fault for the lousy food.
All I ask of a waiter is that they get my order right, it arrives before I die of starvation, the food's hot when it's supposed to be, and they keep my soda refilled. That gets you 20%, rounded up to the nearest dollar (I round the tip amount). If I ordered something that I turned out not to like, if I know it to be a good restaurant, I'll just chock it up to my messing up. And if it's the first time I've been there, I'll simply just not come back (since I won't be already in the habit of going there, or will miss it).
Finally, here's a tip for anyone who might be reading this drivel, this far: Did you realize you can ask the waiter what is good? A couple of people I've been out with have asked for what they recommend, and it surprised me a little. I guess I would've thought that waiters would be very hesitant to do that, as peoples' tastes differ and why risk your tip. But both times it was the such-and-such was excellent, and the so-and-so is not as good. I guess I didn't think they'd be even slightly negative about anything on the menu, and remain neutral. I know I wouldn't talk to a customer at work and say I recommended a certain piece of our software, but that another of our components is not so good. Oh well.
Tipping was not meant to be taken for granted. (Score:2)
Tipping was not a custom of the poor or middle class. Tipping was something upper class / wealthy people did. most people don't have an income, in the true legal sense of the word since most people, especially those with expensive college education, don't get the money that their hours are worth, so they don't even break even working... but they're all brainwashed that "income" means "incoming money" not "profit" as it does legally.
So they get ripped off like all other silly people. Not my problem... the
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The question is not an and or, I'm merely pointing out that people religiously tip, but blanch when it comes to tipping the people that do them a boon. The guy whom you tip ten bucks on top of 30, even if shitty service is gypping you. If you don't get your money's worth, why pay? Service should be stellar. I've done waiting. (You'll find that if this was a communist country, my "work bulletin" would show a LONG list of professional experience.) None of my customers ever had any complaints. True I pr
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You tip the people who make you rich, not the people who make you broke.
The waiter's not making me broke -- it's my choice to go out to eat, and to a particular restaurant. The waiter's just a working stiff like me, on the lower end of the pay eschelon like I once was. If I was in business with someone, I wouldn't need to tip them, because it would be in the business contract. Anyone who's going to make me wealthy has the power to pre- factor their "tip" in. Waiters do not. (Except some restaurants seem to
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Did you carefully read what you said?
You are "worth" whatever the market says you are? I mentioned my time at work... I am worth infinitely more (as will be discovered by anyone trying to infringe upon me), my time at work is worth a certain amount, minimum.
You... wow... may I copy this and include it in a newsletter? I couldn't have come up with this myself. You've outlined the working stiff's mind without even realizing it. Did you word things this way intentionally or did it just "come out" like that
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Glad I could amaze you. Have fun being amazed that everyone in the world's definition of "profit" is different than the one you made for yourself.
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Well there is a reason why the well worn path leads to the well known end, isn't there? My definition has worked for me, quite well at that. It has also worked for those among my acquaintances who applied it to their work as well. I never said that I was here only to make a profit. However, to not profit by your actions is willfully ignorant. (For the religious types, "fruitful" in "be fruitful and multiply" doesn't refer to breeding like rabbits, the "multiply" part refers to that. "Profit by your ac
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However, to not profit by your actions is willfully ignorant.
You can profit in other ways besides money. For example I don't buy any Christmas gifts for family that are particularly taxing on my pocketbook, yet the joy that I receive making someone I love happily surprised is worth way more than what I spent, so I profit immensely. In fact, that's all I look forward to now at Christmas, that and the time together, as I don't look forward to receiving things so much anymore because I pretty much have everyth
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I've noticed no such "lukewarm" service most of the time. The vast majority of the time the service I receive is excellent.
Bingo. I agree then... tip away. I thought the idea was "paying tips for shitty service" that got this topic going.
Perhaps we should revisit the shit service then? For normal or shit service, I don't tip. You said "excellent"... I thought that was the whole point of tipping, you "bestow a boon" (financial in this case) upon someone who does you a good turn... in this case actually
Horses For Courses (Score:1)
Down here in Oz tipping isn't expected, accepted or usual. On the other hand - people down here tend to get paid decently
Coffee shop staff & a few others put a bowl out, but the most tip anyone can expect is the change people don't want to take with them.
But people down here will tip when the service has been good - have even seen it when the boss has been asshole and people chucked in a few dollars each for the waitress who got grief from an over inflated fucktard running the show (who caused the prob
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Yeah, that was a bit confusing the first time I ate in a restaurant when I visited Australia.
Personally, I like your system better. Overall, service was good everywhere I went and employees seemed generally happy.
Here in Eugene, Oregon, service is generally crap and I don't think most waiters/waitresses deserve any tip.
However, if you don't tip you risk having your food messed with the next time you go there.
Here's a little-known detail of the U.S. restaurant tipping system: The waiters/waitresses are exp