It's a good thing that the US economy is still propped up by exactly the same things as it was before the world wars and nothing else has changed.

In Montreal, downtown, where garage and off street parking is at a premium, there are a ton of regular on street parking spots with level 2 chargers at very reasonable rates but I'm sure thats not something we could possibly do here because of American Exceptionalism.

wouldn't that also push them to build luxury so they dont have to live with the poor?

Cool but if Germany passes a law saying that apps provided there need to support German do I now need to translate my app so that a German can download it and not be able to use it? do I need to conform to other German specific laws for an app that can't even provide an actual service in Germany. Not everything is digital and not everything is just shipped via UPS. Think grub hub or door dash or instacart. Those only make sense where you have the infrastructure.

If Germany bans uber do they still need to support an app in Germany even though driving for them is illegal just because they still want to provide service in France?

OK so I work for a company that provides a marketplace for vendors. We do not distribute the app in the EU because we have no vendors there. we have no network.

But if I build up a network of vendors in say, France then I might like to translate my app to French and start shipping the app there. But now I need to ship the app to Germany so they can open it up and see that there are no local vendors for them to use?

I get why they want this but some apps are actually tied to real world things that might only exist in one country and not another. Limiting this to the EU doesn't necessarily make it any less weird for certain businesses.

The eastern most tip of Maine and the upper peninsula of Michigan are in the same time zone. Sure maybe standard time is better but New England should probably be in Atlantic time which is the same as DST in the eastern time zone. I don't care which one we call it, I'm just sick of sunsets at 3:30 in the afternoon.

I do agree with you on home charging being a serious issue these days. I think there are other ways that we, as a society, could get around that. I do agree that we should be pushing to give more people the option to drive at home but if you could hook up to a level 2 charger at almost any destination (the bank, the grocery store, shopping malls, whatever) and change up at your destination all the time then you might not actually need a home charger. But currently we are focused on building out high speed charging even where it doesn't really make sense.

For the cost of putting in 10 high speed chargers at my local outdoor mall they could have probably put in 50 or more level 2 chargers. I have used that high speed charger (mostly to find out how they worked before a road trip) and it was super inconvenient.. my car was charged in very little time and I had to go back almost immediately to move it or pay idle fees designed to keep the charger free for other people. High speed chargers are great near the highway but a level 2 that I could hook up to and charge while I go have Bruch or see a movie would be much more valuable in that situation.

can I drive from LA to Tokyo in a car? No, I cant. So they aren't useful.

Thanks for proving my point with your vapid and reductive comment.

I live in one of those households. I did not take the ICE vehicle on my last 2 road trips because the EV is cheaper per mile and more pleasant to drive.

The ICE car will be replaced with an EV when it has reached the end of its useful life.

range anxiety is a much bigger issue for people who don't want to buy an EV than it is for people who actually own one. I was far more concerned with range before I actually had the experience of road tripping in my EV. The reality is not what you imagine it to be but I can understand why it feels that way because it was not that long ago that I worried about the same things.

My Ioniq 5 went from 15% to 88% in the time it took me go walk 2 doors down, order a burger from Burger King and eat it. about 25 minutes total. I would have been on the road at less than 80% since that was plenty to get me where I needed to go but I wasn't ready to leave yet. Also that was a 120kw charger, not a 350 which would be much more ideal for changing that vehicle and actually take advantage of its maximum charging speed.

The interesting thing that I think a lot of buyers dont understand about EVs is that the charging speed is actually a whole lot more important than the range, at least beyond a certain point. Sure I would love a vehicle with a 350 mile range but the ability to change up my vehicle with a 250 mile range in a short time is actually far more valuable than a 350 mile range with an hour charge time.

do you have any actual evidence of that or does it just feel good in your gut?

you really cant' think of any other way for them to charge?

We should be pushing on subsidies for landlords installing chargers, we should eventually charge higher property taxes to landlords who have parking spots without chargers. We should be pushing for people to be able to charge at work, we should be building out charging infrastructure in on street parking the way it has been done in Canada.

This shit is not that hard to come up with. Its hard to get it to happen in our do nothing society but thats a problem with us, not a problem with the tech. Plenty of other countries have found ways to make sure renters and even people who park on streets can charge their cars with much of the convenience of a homeowner but as usual those solutions won't work here because we don't want them too

yeah same utility with double the complexity... what's not to love.

Listen I'm just saying that they are completely comparable, not that apple is better. But apple has been committed to keeping these phones supported since fairly early on (baring the first few that just didn't have the chops). Apple is what has pushed google to a better level of support but this whole thread started out, as so many do, bashing apple for some perceived failure that is not based in reality.

Frankly, I'm kind of sick of that behavior, its childish and its immature and it shows that people care a lot more about the thing they want to root for (or against) than they do about the actual issues they claim to support.